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      • Leaving your child in a daycare center that is so contaminated is child abuse.

        Where there is such a sick attitude towards Christmas, there are brochures for puberty blockers available. And there's definitely already been a corner set up for early sexualization.

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            And the Koran and headscarves...

              • Maybe they already have their prayer rug in their locker.

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                  Don't lump everyone together: Muslims have no problems with Jesus, Mary, Christmas - they also send Christmas greetings, emphasizing that the Koran is also about Mary and Jesus, and don't forget to add that for them there is only 1 God gives. (Jesus not as the Son of God and Mary not as the Mother of God). But what are these “problems”? Children don't care at all! Let's just let the children be children and enjoy the beautiful tree, the lights and the presents. I am sure there has not been a single complaint from Muslim families. These are probably leftists and others who only use Muslims to fight and eradicate their own culture.

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                      Have you read the Quran? Do you know the Arabic term "Taqiyya"?

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                          Have you read the Bible? An example:

                          If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, take it
                          Do not welcome him into your house, but refuse to greet him. Because whoever offers him greetings is complicit in his evil deeds.

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                              What is written in the Bible is not relevant to action. The local legal codes are relevant for action. For Muslims, however, the Koran is the law book and must not be doubted. It's right at the beginning of Sura 2 Verse 2 and is repeated several times throughout so that it won't be forgotten.

                              And where in the Bible is there a call for genocide?

                                • The Koran is unconstitutional and should be banned because it calls for violence, killing and other crimes.

                                  The Koran does not contain a religion but an archaic ideology of the exercise of power as an inhumane DICTATORY.

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                                    I completely agree with you

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                                      Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but the sword. (Mic 7:6; Luke 12:51)

                                      Is that in the Koran? No - Matthew 10:34

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                                        When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you will come to possess it, and have cut off many nations before you, the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater than... They are stronger than you, and if the LORD your God gives them up before you to smite them, then you shall banish them, and make no covenant with them, nor show favor to them.

                                        You will devour all the nations that the LORD your God gives you. Your eyes shall not spare them, nor shall you serve their gods; for that would become a snare for you. Deuteronomy 7:1-2

                                        And the LORD your God will send hornets among them to destroy those who are left who are hiding from you. Do not be afraid of them, for the LORD your God is among you, a great and terrible God. And the LORD your God will drive out these nations little by little; You cannot wear them out quickly, otherwise the animals of the field will multiply to your detriment. The LORD your God will deliver them up before you and bring them into great confusion until they are destroyed. And he will deliver their kings into your hand, and you shall blot out their names from under heaven. No one will resist you until you destroy them.
                                        5. Moses 7, 16 / 20-24

                                        even with regulations:
                                        When you go before a city to make war on it, you shall offer it peace. If it answers you peacefully and opens it to you, then all the people that are found therein shall be obligated and servile to you. But if she does not want to negotiate peacefully with you, but rather wage war with you, then besiege her. And when the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall smite every male in it with the edge of the sword; but you shall take the women, and the children, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, and all the plunder, for your own spoil, and you shall eat of the spoil of your enemies, which the LORD your God has given you. 15 This is what you shall do to all the cities that are very far from you, and are not among the cities of these peoples here. But in the cities of these peoples which the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not allow anything that has breath to live, but you shall destroy them: the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites; as the LORD your God has commanded you
                                        5. Moses 20, 10-17

                                        or immediately with an announcement:
                                        Hear, O Israel: Today you will cross the Jordan to go in to overwhelm nations greater and stronger than you, to take great cities fortified as high as heaven, a great and tall people, the children of Anak, whom you know , of whom you have also heard it said, Who can resist the children of Anak? This day you shall know that the LORD your God is going before you as a consuming fire. He will destroy them and subdue them before you, and drive them out and kill them quickly, as the LORD has promised you.
                                        5. Moses 9, 1-3
                                        because whoever is found there will be stabbed, and whoever is there will fall by the sword. Their children will also be crushed before their eyes, their houses will be plundered, and their wives will be violated. For behold, I will raise up the Medes against them, who will not seek silver or ask for gold, but will shoot the young men with bows, and will not have mercy on the fear of the body, nor will they spare the children.
                                        Isaiah 13, 15-19

                                        Then the people raised a shout and blew the trumpets. For when the people heard the sound of the trumpets, they made a great shout. And the walls fell down, and the people went up into the city, each one straight ahead. So they conquered the city (Hebrews 11:30) 21 and destroyed everything that was in the city with the edge of the sword: man and woman, young and old, oxen, sheep and asses.
                                        Joshua 6:21

                                        And when Israel had slain all the inhabitants of Ai in the field and in the desert who were pursuing them, and all had fallen by the edge of the sword until they all perished, then all Israel turned against Ai and smote it with the edge of the sword. And all who fell that day, both men and women, were twelve thousand, all people of Ai.
                                        Joshua 8:24-25

                                        The same day Joshua also captured Makkedah and smote it with the edge of the sword, and its king, and banished it and all the souls that were in it, leaving no one left
                                        Joshua 10:28

                                        And the LORD also gave Lachish into the hands of Israel, and they conquered it the next day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were in it, just as they had done to Libnah. At that time Horam king of Gezer went up to help Lachish; but Joshua smote him and all his people, until none remained.

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                                        Then Joshua returned with all Israel to Debir, and fought against it, and conquered it with its king and all its cities. and smote it with the edge of the sword, and banished all the souls that were therein, and left none left.
                                        Joshua 10:32-33, 38-39

                                        Here God YHWH intervenes personally again:
                                        Then Joshua did to them as the LORD had told him, and paralyzed their horses, and burned their chariots, and returned at that time, and took Hazor, and smote his king with the sword; for Hazor was formerly the capital of all these kingdoms. And they smote all the souls that were therein with the edge of the sword, and banished them: and he left none that had breath, and burnt Hazor with fire.
                                        ...can be continued as desired...

                                        etc and so on and no the New Testament does not necessarily abolish the Old Testament, likewise the Old Testament is contained in Tanach, the Jewish counterpart which also contains the Torah. Talmut is what Sharia is to Muslims. A kind of collection of laws based on the holy scriptures. (to put it very simply)

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                                        In contrast to the Koran, the interpretation of the Bible has undergone a DEVELOPMENT - especially during the Enlightenment period. Your objection is the very typical objection of left-wing ideologists who don't (can't) think things through. The Bible is interpreted completely differently today than when it was written... Just a few centuries later the interpretation was changed and today it is again different than a few centuries before. So a lot has DEVELOPED there.

                                        The Koran, on the other hand, MUST not be interpreted differently. Anyone who does so is committing the gravest sin and must be punished. Because the Koran is considered God's word in the original sense and God's word must not be changed. The Koran is therefore still interpreted in exactly the same way today as it was when it was written.

                                        You have not written anything about “Taqiyya”. The "Taqiyya" is the permitted, even desired LIE. It is NOT permitted within Islam, but is permitted if it serves to further spread the teachings of the Koran outside of Islam. So if you (for example) see a woman with a headscarf on a German talk show who claims that Islam is very peaceful, then this is a "taqiyya".
                                        The woman in question is lying - brazenly in our opinion - but she is PRAISED for it by other Muslims because she did it for Allah, so to speak.

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                                          The Bible conveys multiple information!
                                          On the one hand, it involves an attempt from above to reach people so that people can learn to understand their function in creation... A learning process for humanity that, by the way, is not yet complete!
                                          Then there are the chronologically following reports of how the people, who had, so to speak, made contact with the One while they were surrounded by polytheistic cultures, tended to engage in gruesome rituals to worship the gods... The Old Testament, which deals (largely?) with the Torah covers the confrontations with various cultures, such as Egyptians, Babylonians, Greeks...
                                          What I mean to say is that there are pieces of wisdom that keep cropping up, and there are reports of how the Semites used their religious-spiritual inspiration to overcome intercultural problems... Nevertheless, they never stopped waiting for the arrival of a "savior". hope and people will find their innocence again...

                                          One thing always stands out: do not judge, lest you be judged!

                                          As humans, we may be able to punish lawbreakers, but it is not our job to punish sins! Heaven only punishes the sins that people have not yet punished!

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                                            Geronimo: I HATE when quotes are taken out of context to denigrate our culture.
                                            Read it completely, think about it, then comment in context if necessary or form an opinion.

                                            LIVING IN TRUTH: 4-6
                                            4 I rejoiced greatly to find among your children those who walk in the truth, according to the commandment we received from the Father.
                                            5 And now I ask you, Lady, not as if I were writing you a new commandment, but only the one we had from the beginning: that we should love one another.
                                            6 For this is love, that we walk according to his commandments. And this is the commandment that you have heard from the beginning: that you walk in the truth.

                                            For many deceivers have gone out into the world, who do not confess Jesus Christ who has come in the flesh. This is the seducer and the Antichrist.
                                            8 Take heed to yourselves, so that you do not abandon what we have worked for, but that you may receive the full reward.
                                            9 Anyone who goes beyond this and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God. But whoever remains in the teaching has the Father and the Son.
                                            10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching with him, do not welcome him into your house, but refuse to greet him.
                                            11 For whoever salutes him is complicit in his evil deeds.
                                            (...)
                                            quoted with thanks from https://www.bibeltv.de/bibe...

                                            • Touched, sir. 👍

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                                              Thanks for the tip: Even if the Christmas greetings from Islamic associations were purely polite or opportunistic, I would politely accept it and also send greetings at the next opportunity. Don't worry so much about tactical maneuvers and deception. People change, even if it takes a long time. Give the new generation a chance.

                                              • Many who claim to have read the Koran have only read a translated version, without the original Arabic context. It has been translated for several centuries. There are countless versions. One should always keep in mind that manipulation extends to *all* areas of historiography. Divide and conquer.

                                                To throw in a term here that merely describes the concealment of one's faith at risk to one's body and property somehow makes little sense in the argument.

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                                                    Achherjeh - the ridiculous Taqiyya with the different translations.

                                                    I refer to versions that are considered authentic by the ZdM and Ditib.

                                                    Furthermore, hardly all Muslims are fluent in Arabic. Consequently, there are inevitably translations for Muslims in the respective national language.

                                                    In addition, experts in the Arabic language point out that the original Arabic edition is much more brutal and cruel because the Arabic language offers many more different expressions for brutality and cruelty. Why do you think that is the case?

                                                    And why should the reference to Islamic lying for convenience make little sense? You have to explain that in detail.

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                                                      It's always the same. You provide irrefutable evidence from surahs or quote hadiths to show what a violent and expansionist philosophy Islam is and at the very end someone ALWAYS comes up with "uh um...you have to read the Koran in the original Arabic." Yawn. The Quran is easy to understand. The first surahs are relatively peaceful, the later surahs are war surahs that make it clear what Islam is. And whoever says "OK, then let's just say the first surahs count and the later ones don't!" Oops...sorry, unfortunately there is the law on abrogation that says that the later surahs overwrite the older ones. Comes from the Muslims themselves, not from me. There are no peaceful Muslims, only Muslims who don't care about the Koran. I am tolerant of most philosophies and religions, Islam is the exception with its violent claim to autocracy. And before someone clever posts quotes from the OT of the Bible that have been taken out of context. THIS IS NOT A DIRECTION FOR US! The Christian has to follow Jesus Christ, not what God gave the Jews in the OT.

                                                      Just because we would like peace we shouldn't close our eyes.

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                                                    True, I live in a Muslim country and here in every mall there is a well-decorated Christmas tree, sometimes with elves, sleighs and everything else in front of it.
                                                    Plus the singing of Christmas carols all day long.
                                                    Children of all backgrounds like it and parents are happy to see the happy faces of the children.

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                                                        Hmmmm..... what this whole discussion is "sick of" is the confusion of popular customs with religion. Christianity doesn't "need" a Christmas tree, sleighs, tinsel, etc. All of this belongs to a childish fairy tale world. But 1 symbol of the Christmas season reaches all people and is understood all over the world: the symbolism of the light that dispels the darkness. In this sense: nothing more is needed. Don't ask for too much.

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                                                            There have never been any problems with Christmas traditions all these years and decades? Why should this suddenly be a problem? Because a minority, which also indulges in nonsense like “cultural appropriation” at every opportunity, has something against it? Who cares? Nobody cares what this minority thinks they are allowed to decide here!

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                                                              Well, it's about customs and tradition. About OUR culture. The Oh-Fir-Boom and the cinnamon stars, the Christ child and the colorful glass balls with tinsel are all part of Christmas. It's not that old - a few centuries - but we Germans like it that way! By the way, hardliners like me celebrate Midwinter extensively with a big campfire. THAT is light!

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                                                                  Yes, it's about customs and tradition - not so much about the Christian faith. And in that respect I agree with you. I would not forbid myself or anyone else from celebrating Christmas or other festivals that define our traditions. If the so-called educators try this, they should return their tuition money. Conversely, you can also make the festivals (!) of other religions appealing to children (and adults) and invite them to join in the celebration. Then at least everyone gets something out of it and no one is “offended”.

                                                                • As for Christian customs: If these didn't exist, educators would have to invent them in order to introduce Christianity to children.
                                                                  It is typical of the infantile Germans that they like to trample on everything beautiful, true, good and holy and think that

                                                                  having to defend an abused, adulterated and meaningless custom, for example
                                                                  putting up light trees long before December 24th, i.e. at a time when only the Advent wreath is a meaningful custom.

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                                                                    Nevertheless: Christmas time is the time before the night in which the newborn boy Jesus Christ was "consecrated" by the three wise men. In a way it has something to do with religion. However, I agree with you in that it is a childlike fairytale world today and I'm sure we all enjoy the lights that illuminate the dark nights here in the northern hemisphere. It's not for nothing that both Judaism and Hinduism also have a festival of lights :)